letstalklc
08-31 10:30 AM
The 5000 minute limit is phrased as "consistent with residential use" term in the Terms and Conditions. CS is often clueless.
For more details - look at the chat transcript I posted in the fatwallet forums Chat Tanscript - Look at the 8th post in this page (http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/946947/?start=120).
Or - even better - look at the original Terms and Conditions (http://www.vonage.com/tos/#SERVICE). The relevant section is section 5.4, named "Inconsistent with Normal Use".
puddonhead - you are right, there is a limit of 5K for residential plans....it's clearly mentioned in Terms and Conditions (5.4)...I also spoke to them and confirmed me the same..
For more details - look at the chat transcript I posted in the fatwallet forums Chat Tanscript - Look at the 8th post in this page (http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/946947/?start=120).
Or - even better - look at the original Terms and Conditions (http://www.vonage.com/tos/#SERVICE). The relevant section is section 5.4, named "Inconsistent with Normal Use".
puddonhead - you are right, there is a limit of 5K for residential plans....it's clearly mentioned in Terms and Conditions (5.4)...I also spoke to them and confirmed me the same..
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ash27
06-13 01:08 PM
gc26...., It seems that you have missed the point again. Any logical person will have the capability to comprehend that this thread is against visa abuse in L1 category.. If you still didn't get it, objective is to explore the options to report abuse of L1. Benefits are: genuine people still get the opportunity, reduce over supply in market, not bring wages down etc.
Its that simple. If you can give me 1 good reason to not bring this issue up, I can definitely discuss the issue. But, stop giving me this crap about raising voice and being right...
Totally, non baseless argument by you and Ganguteli...
Its that simple. If you can give me 1 good reason to not bring this issue up, I can definitely discuss the issue. But, stop giving me this crap about raising voice and being right...
Totally, non baseless argument by you and Ganguteli...
prasadn
09-23 05:07 PM
A basic question - Are the months that the numbers are slotted into for the Priority Dates? or are they the recept date or something else....?
If PD, then how come there are numbers for 2008 and 2009? The PD has never been current since July 2007....
Questions & Answers: Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Inventory
Q: Why is the wait so long for my employment-based green card?
A: A visa must be available before a person can obtain an employment-based green card. Because more people want a green card than there are visas available, not everyone who wants a green card can get one immediately. Therefore, some people have to wait in line until a visa is available. The U.S. Department of State (DOS) gives out 140,000 employment-based visas each year. About 85% of those visas go to people seeking a green card in the United States, while about 15% go to people seeking to immigrate from abroad. Currently, about 234,000 people have employment-based adjustment of status (green card) applications pending in the United States and are waiting to get a visa. How long you wait for a visa depends on the supply and demand for your particular preference category, your priority date, and the country your visa will be charged to, usually your country of birth.
Q: How can I determine my place in line based on my priority date?
A: Your preference category, priority date, and country of origin determine your place in line for a visa. The earlier your priority date is, the closer you are to the front of the line. To better assist you in knowing your place in line, we are posting a report of our total pending inventory of applications for employment-based green cards (Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status) for those seeking to adjust status in the United States. See the �Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report� link to the right. We are also posting five other reports by country of chargeability (China, India, Mexico, Philippines, and All Other Chargeability) (see the links to the right).
The �Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report,� displays the total number of pending adjustment of status applications, per preference classification. The report shows how many pending adjustment of status (green card) applications in each preference classification have priority dates in a given month and year. You can use this chart to determine how many applicants in your preference classification have priority dates in the same month and year as your own. Also, you can determine how many applicants in your preference classification are ahead of you in line for a visa number by adding together the number of cases with an earlier priority date than your own.
The All Other Chargeability report shows how many applicants from countries other than China, India, Mexico, and the Philippines have priority dates in a given month and year. The report is broken down into separate charts for each preference classification. If you are from a country other than China, India, Mexico, or the Philippines, you can use this chart to determine how many applicants for adjustment of status in the same preference classification have a priority date in the same month and year as your own. This chart also lets you know how many applicants in the same preference classification have earlier priority dates.
Because of historically higher demand for visas from China, India, Mexico, and the Philippines, each of those countries has its own separate report. As published in the DOS Visa Bulletin, applicants from those countries will need to have earlier priority dates than like applicants from other countries to get a visa in any given month. If you are from China, India, Mexico, or the Philippines, you may want to use the report for your particular country. Your country report will show you how many applicants from the same country and preference classification have a priority date in the same month and year as your own. The report will also let you know how many applicants from the same country and preference classification have earlier priority dates.
Q: Which report should I use, the Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report or the country-specific reports?
A: All applicants for an employment-based green card may use the pending Form I-485 report to determine their place in line for a visa. Because certain countries experience higher demand than others, applicants in these �oversubscribed� countries may move forward in line more slowly than applicants in countries experiencing less demand. In other words, in order to obtain a visa, applicants in oversubscribed countries may need to have earlier priority dates than applicants in countries experiencing less demand. Applicants in oversubscribed countries may therefore want to also refer to the report for their specific country of chargeability to determine where they stand in line with other applicants from that country.
Q: What information do I need to have before using the pending Form I-485 inventory reports?
A: You need to know your priority date and your preference category to use the pending Form I-485 inventory reports. For more information on priority dates and preference categories, see the �Visa Availability & Priority Dates� and �Green Card Eligibility� links to the right.
Q: How do I read the pending I-485 inventory reports?
A: First, click on the link to the report you want to view. Once you click on the link, the report will appear and you will see a series of charts, one for each preference category. You will see that each chart has different numbers for each month and year. These numbers show how many green card applicants have priority dates in that month and year. To figure out how many applicants have earlier priority dates, add all the numbers from all the cells that correspond to earlier months.
Q: Can you tell me when I will get a visa?
A: Unfortunately, we cannot determine how long it will take for you to get a visa. However, we hope that by showing applicants with a pending Form I-485 where they stand in line to get a visa, you will get a better sense of how long it may take. We intend to update the data in these reports quarterly. By comparing newer versions of the reports with older ones, you may see that the number of applicants ahead of you has gotten smaller, and you may be able to tell how much shorter the line has become. We hope this will give you an even better sense of how long it may take for you to get a visa.
Q: Can you provide me an example of how to use the pending Form I-485 inventory charts?
A: Assume your priority date is in January 2007, your petition was approved for third preference, and you are from China. Using the Sample �Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report,� below you will see on the third preference chart that there are 2,618 applicants with a priority date in the same month and year as your priority date.
If you want to find out how many third-preference green card applicants have an earlier priority date than yours, you will need to add all the numbers starting with the number at the beginning of the table, January 1997, and ending with the number immediately before the month and year of your own priority date, December 2006. You will see that there are 131,341 third-preference applicants who have a priority date earlier than yours.
Q: How do I know how many applicants from my country have an earlier priority date than mine?
A: Assume your priority date is in June 2005, your petition was approved for third preference, and you are from India. Using the Sample �I-485 Inventory for Individuals Born in India Report� below, you will see that there are 175 green card applicants from India with a priority date in June 2005.
To find out how many applicants born in India have an earlier priority date than yours, add all the numbers starting at January 1997 and ending at May 2005. You will see that there are 42,796 third-preference applicants from India with a priority date earlier than yours.
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If PD, then how come there are numbers for 2008 and 2009? The PD has never been current since July 2007....
Questions & Answers: Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Inventory
Q: Why is the wait so long for my employment-based green card?
A: A visa must be available before a person can obtain an employment-based green card. Because more people want a green card than there are visas available, not everyone who wants a green card can get one immediately. Therefore, some people have to wait in line until a visa is available. The U.S. Department of State (DOS) gives out 140,000 employment-based visas each year. About 85% of those visas go to people seeking a green card in the United States, while about 15% go to people seeking to immigrate from abroad. Currently, about 234,000 people have employment-based adjustment of status (green card) applications pending in the United States and are waiting to get a visa. How long you wait for a visa depends on the supply and demand for your particular preference category, your priority date, and the country your visa will be charged to, usually your country of birth.
Q: How can I determine my place in line based on my priority date?
A: Your preference category, priority date, and country of origin determine your place in line for a visa. The earlier your priority date is, the closer you are to the front of the line. To better assist you in knowing your place in line, we are posting a report of our total pending inventory of applications for employment-based green cards (Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status) for those seeking to adjust status in the United States. See the �Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report� link to the right. We are also posting five other reports by country of chargeability (China, India, Mexico, Philippines, and All Other Chargeability) (see the links to the right).
The �Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report,� displays the total number of pending adjustment of status applications, per preference classification. The report shows how many pending adjustment of status (green card) applications in each preference classification have priority dates in a given month and year. You can use this chart to determine how many applicants in your preference classification have priority dates in the same month and year as your own. Also, you can determine how many applicants in your preference classification are ahead of you in line for a visa number by adding together the number of cases with an earlier priority date than your own.
The All Other Chargeability report shows how many applicants from countries other than China, India, Mexico, and the Philippines have priority dates in a given month and year. The report is broken down into separate charts for each preference classification. If you are from a country other than China, India, Mexico, or the Philippines, you can use this chart to determine how many applicants for adjustment of status in the same preference classification have a priority date in the same month and year as your own. This chart also lets you know how many applicants in the same preference classification have earlier priority dates.
Because of historically higher demand for visas from China, India, Mexico, and the Philippines, each of those countries has its own separate report. As published in the DOS Visa Bulletin, applicants from those countries will need to have earlier priority dates than like applicants from other countries to get a visa in any given month. If you are from China, India, Mexico, or the Philippines, you may want to use the report for your particular country. Your country report will show you how many applicants from the same country and preference classification have a priority date in the same month and year as your own. The report will also let you know how many applicants from the same country and preference classification have earlier priority dates.
Q: Which report should I use, the Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report or the country-specific reports?
A: All applicants for an employment-based green card may use the pending Form I-485 report to determine their place in line for a visa. Because certain countries experience higher demand than others, applicants in these �oversubscribed� countries may move forward in line more slowly than applicants in countries experiencing less demand. In other words, in order to obtain a visa, applicants in oversubscribed countries may need to have earlier priority dates than applicants in countries experiencing less demand. Applicants in oversubscribed countries may therefore want to also refer to the report for their specific country of chargeability to determine where they stand in line with other applicants from that country.
Q: What information do I need to have before using the pending Form I-485 inventory reports?
A: You need to know your priority date and your preference category to use the pending Form I-485 inventory reports. For more information on priority dates and preference categories, see the �Visa Availability & Priority Dates� and �Green Card Eligibility� links to the right.
Q: How do I read the pending I-485 inventory reports?
A: First, click on the link to the report you want to view. Once you click on the link, the report will appear and you will see a series of charts, one for each preference category. You will see that each chart has different numbers for each month and year. These numbers show how many green card applicants have priority dates in that month and year. To figure out how many applicants have earlier priority dates, add all the numbers from all the cells that correspond to earlier months.
Q: Can you tell me when I will get a visa?
A: Unfortunately, we cannot determine how long it will take for you to get a visa. However, we hope that by showing applicants with a pending Form I-485 where they stand in line to get a visa, you will get a better sense of how long it may take. We intend to update the data in these reports quarterly. By comparing newer versions of the reports with older ones, you may see that the number of applicants ahead of you has gotten smaller, and you may be able to tell how much shorter the line has become. We hope this will give you an even better sense of how long it may take for you to get a visa.
Q: Can you provide me an example of how to use the pending Form I-485 inventory charts?
A: Assume your priority date is in January 2007, your petition was approved for third preference, and you are from China. Using the Sample �Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report,� below you will see on the third preference chart that there are 2,618 applicants with a priority date in the same month and year as your priority date.
If you want to find out how many third-preference green card applicants have an earlier priority date than yours, you will need to add all the numbers starting with the number at the beginning of the table, January 1997, and ending with the number immediately before the month and year of your own priority date, December 2006. You will see that there are 131,341 third-preference applicants who have a priority date earlier than yours.
Q: How do I know how many applicants from my country have an earlier priority date than mine?
A: Assume your priority date is in June 2005, your petition was approved for third preference, and you are from India. Using the Sample �I-485 Inventory for Individuals Born in India Report� below, you will see that there are 175 green card applicants from India with a priority date in June 2005.
To find out how many applicants born in India have an earlier priority date than yours, add all the numbers starting at January 1997 and ending at May 2005. You will see that there are 42,796 third-preference applicants from India with a priority date earlier than yours.
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vdlrao
04-01 11:36 PM
Total 44K
If 44k is the available number for EB2 I & C then the PD will move upto Jun 2008 with out any doubt. Even with the porting of EB3 to EB2 is accounted for.
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If 44k is the available number for EB2 I & C then the PD will move upto Jun 2008 with out any doubt. Even with the porting of EB3 to EB2 is accounted for.
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senthil1
07-09 09:25 PM
If it is not mistake you are thinking as Conspiracy. What is the motive of conspiracy? What I am telling is making all PD current was mistake as everyone will expect atleast 300k I485 applications and that many Visa was not available. They made another mistake to correct previous mistake. There is no pro or anti immigrant stand is needed to evaluate this. I do not believe conspiracy theories. Even 9/11 attack also so many conspiracy thories are there. Unless we get some evidence everything is speculative only
why do you keep parroting the pro USCIS, pro -antiimmigrant line all the time?
there are times when your realism makes sense, then there are others when it's plain silly.
this was not a mistake. this was not an accident.
civil servants do not show up on weekends by accidents. and they do not do 6 mnths of work in 15 days by mistake.
it was intentional, directed and planned.
you can believe whatever motives you want and you can sympathize with uscis till kingdom come. but pleaaasee don't tell me it was a random event, some act of god that is our destiny or such crap. please!
why do you keep parroting the pro USCIS, pro -antiimmigrant line all the time?
there are times when your realism makes sense, then there are others when it's plain silly.
this was not a mistake. this was not an accident.
civil servants do not show up on weekends by accidents. and they do not do 6 mnths of work in 15 days by mistake.
it was intentional, directed and planned.
you can believe whatever motives you want and you can sympathize with uscis till kingdom come. but pleaaasee don't tell me it was a random event, some act of god that is our destiny or such crap. please!
meghanap2000
10-26 04:52 PM
FatJoe,
Got an email from USCIS stating that there is an change in status... This email showed new status as Card Prodn Ordered...
This was early evening 22'nd Oct.... Got two emails - one for me and one for my wife... exactly identical email.
Then later at night (closer to midnite NSC time i think), i received the same two emails for me and my wife again.... not sure why.
Since then no other emails.... So far, i have only recvd CPO email.... no other emails at all...
Donot worry about 2 emails. That normally happens for alomost any approval email from USCIS. I always got 2 emails from USCIS in approval of my every case like h1b ext, 485 etc..
You may not receive any more email from USCIS about your 485. But USCIS will send 485 approval courtesy copies to you and originals to your attorney. So please contact your attorney after 3 or 4 business days and collect your original i485 apporvals. You will receive your green cards with in 1 week. I received CPO mail on oct 17th and received green cards on oct 24th.
Please let me know if you need any more info.
Got an email from USCIS stating that there is an change in status... This email showed new status as Card Prodn Ordered...
This was early evening 22'nd Oct.... Got two emails - one for me and one for my wife... exactly identical email.
Then later at night (closer to midnite NSC time i think), i received the same two emails for me and my wife again.... not sure why.
Since then no other emails.... So far, i have only recvd CPO email.... no other emails at all...
Donot worry about 2 emails. That normally happens for alomost any approval email from USCIS. I always got 2 emails from USCIS in approval of my every case like h1b ext, 485 etc..
You may not receive any more email from USCIS about your 485. But USCIS will send 485 approval courtesy copies to you and originals to your attorney. So please contact your attorney after 3 or 4 business days and collect your original i485 apporvals. You will receive your green cards with in 1 week. I received CPO mail on oct 17th and received green cards on oct 24th.
Please let me know if you need any more info.
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nixstor
07-10 07:57 PM
It seems the popular perception is that this is an Indian effort.
We need to correct it.
It seems some of the members who interviewed with the media got carried away with "Gandhigiri" and all things Indian. It sounds ironic, we are craving attention from Indian media while trying to become Permanent residents of USA.
gsc999,
Please do not form conclusions about members who have interviewed. You might ask me how do I know it? Well, I am one of the guys who interviewed and explained everything about IV. The sound bite/theme of this campaign flower protest has its origins in Gandhigiri, which most of the media knows now. Thats how reporters tend to script it in their own ways and associate things based on history. You have to try to envisage how things work. If not, you can try doing an interview and see if "What you say is what is you see", even though facts are not misrepresented 100%
I am positive there are more interviews coming down tomorrow after the Rueters story popped up. I welcome all non-Indian IV members to step up and grab this oppurtunity to not only prove that IV has world wide members, but also can put their native country into picture so that IV can be more diverse.
We need to correct it.
It seems some of the members who interviewed with the media got carried away with "Gandhigiri" and all things Indian. It sounds ironic, we are craving attention from Indian media while trying to become Permanent residents of USA.
gsc999,
Please do not form conclusions about members who have interviewed. You might ask me how do I know it? Well, I am one of the guys who interviewed and explained everything about IV. The sound bite/theme of this campaign flower protest has its origins in Gandhigiri, which most of the media knows now. Thats how reporters tend to script it in their own ways and associate things based on history. You have to try to envisage how things work. If not, you can try doing an interview and see if "What you say is what is you see", even though facts are not misrepresented 100%
I am positive there are more interviews coming down tomorrow after the Rueters story popped up. I welcome all non-Indian IV members to step up and grab this oppurtunity to not only prove that IV has world wide members, but also can put their native country into picture so that IV can be more diverse.
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letstalklc
08-26 10:05 AM
I've been using Lingo for 3+ years, I called them to ask if they are aware(of course they are), rep said within a week they are coming up with a plan that's better than Vonage. unlimited calling to india and 100+ countries for $22.95. Plus i think they are going to include some free minutes every month that you can use to call india from your work or cell phone using a toll free or access # (just like you use Reliance).
Rep said you will receive an email in a week or so about the new offer/plan.
If you are already a Lingo customer I'd wait a week, Lingo has history of beating any competing plan.
Thanks for the info, It will good if you can update here as soon as you get an email regarding the offer...
Very +ve news from Lingo.
Rep said you will receive an email in a week or so about the new offer/plan.
If you are already a Lingo customer I'd wait a week, Lingo has history of beating any competing plan.
Thanks for the info, It will good if you can update here as soon as you get an email regarding the offer...
Very +ve news from Lingo.
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ski_dude12
09-21 10:26 AM
Listing down things I did after my date was current-
1: I opened an SR on July 5th (immediately after long weekend) as my date was current in July. Got back a response in a week that no visa numbers available. Either their system was not updated or they didnt check to see if dates were current.
2: Had to wait a month before I could open another SR. In first week of August I contacted local congresswoman/opened another SR. Congresswoman reply was that the case is being actively worked on.
3: Also, contacted the Ombudsman (mailed all the required docs) in 1st week of August. Got a response in early September that Ombudsman can help to improve procedural inefficiencies in USCIS or some extreme cases.
4: Sent an email to SCOPSSCATA@dhs.gov on August 4th with pretty much the same details- case pending/PD etc. On same day they forwarded email to NCSCfollowup, TSC for resolution.
5: On Aug 9th got reply from NCSCfollowup, TSC that file has been requested. To allow 60 days.
6: After this I did not followup in any way. Then I got an email from NCSCfollowup, TSC on 17th September that my case review was complete, prints/security was over and my file would be forwarded to officers for completing.
7: Got approval email today (September 21st).
In my opinion the email to SCOPSSCATA@dhs.gov helped the most.
If anyone needs any details on email/letter format please let me know. (Green.Tech, Saileshdude...)
1: I opened an SR on July 5th (immediately after long weekend) as my date was current in July. Got back a response in a week that no visa numbers available. Either their system was not updated or they didnt check to see if dates were current.
2: Had to wait a month before I could open another SR. In first week of August I contacted local congresswoman/opened another SR. Congresswoman reply was that the case is being actively worked on.
3: Also, contacted the Ombudsman (mailed all the required docs) in 1st week of August. Got a response in early September that Ombudsman can help to improve procedural inefficiencies in USCIS or some extreme cases.
4: Sent an email to SCOPSSCATA@dhs.gov on August 4th with pretty much the same details- case pending/PD etc. On same day they forwarded email to NCSCfollowup, TSC for resolution.
5: On Aug 9th got reply from NCSCfollowup, TSC that file has been requested. To allow 60 days.
6: After this I did not followup in any way. Then I got an email from NCSCfollowup, TSC on 17th September that my case review was complete, prints/security was over and my file would be forwarded to officers for completing.
7: Got approval email today (September 21st).
In my opinion the email to SCOPSSCATA@dhs.gov helped the most.
If anyone needs any details on email/letter format please let me know. (Green.Tech, Saileshdude...)
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jsb
09-20 04:20 PM
USCIS is not prepared for anything. if this works then great. if not i tried didn't work out.... :)
My attorney told me that there are several July 2 cases they have not heard back about, although they got receipts for July 19 and later cases long time ago. They told that they are making a formal enquiry. How do they do that I don't know.
I just hope that it is just a normal RIRO, not a lost bundle of applications which was originally marked for rejection/return.
My attorney told me that there are several July 2 cases they have not heard back about, although they got receipts for July 19 and later cases long time ago. They told that they are making a formal enquiry. How do they do that I don't know.
I just hope that it is just a normal RIRO, not a lost bundle of applications which was originally marked for rejection/return.
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Jerrome
09-24 05:53 PM
They are referring to the Perm Labor data for year 2009.
I think one common mistake that is being made everywhere on this board since the USCIS data got out is to make assumptions on demand. We are only being shown data which shows pending applications from USCIS. If USCIS releases data of how much demand by priority date they were getting then its a different thing. When you say , are you basing that on this data released by USCIS or on something else. Because if you are then you are probably wrong. This data only tells you pending data as of Aug 2009 by priority dates. It could well be the case that USCIS got a lot of volume from Sep 2007 to Aug 2008 and processed them all and hence pending is less now. Hope you understand. The only way you can do it with some degree of success with current public data is by looking at PERM Filing data.
I think one common mistake that is being made everywhere on this board since the USCIS data got out is to make assumptions on demand. We are only being shown data which shows pending applications from USCIS. If USCIS releases data of how much demand by priority date they were getting then its a different thing. When you say , are you basing that on this data released by USCIS or on something else. Because if you are then you are probably wrong. This data only tells you pending data as of Aug 2009 by priority dates. It could well be the case that USCIS got a lot of volume from Sep 2007 to Aug 2008 and processed them all and hence pending is less now. Hope you understand. The only way you can do it with some degree of success with current public data is by looking at PERM Filing data.
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trramesh
01-06 07:06 AM
I think the thread is perfectly valid and we should go for it. If someone has paid income taxes to US for 10 years, it is no mean thing. 10 years represent typcially about 25% of his/her earning life. After spending substantial percentage of one's life living in, and making contributions to, US, especially in his/her youth, the guy is more naturalised except that he does not have a citizenship card. Now how many of these guys will be able to slip back in to their own country to readjust their lives with american born and american grown kids.
I think it is not only reasonable but also humane for the government to consider the plight of such people and issue citizenship. The yardstick for qualification will have to be worked out, but Saralayar listed some of the valid parameters like
- 10 years working in US (legally)
- 40 points in social security
- no criminal record
If I may share my thoughts on yardstick, it would be like this
- 7 years of legal residence, contributions to SSN, and taxes should provide provisional GC
- 10 years of legal residence, contributions to SSN, and taxes should provide citizenship
- 7 years of legal residence post approved I-140 should provide citizenship
Most of us in this forum must have already contributed over 75K-100K to IRS over the years. I strongly believe that the govt owes more than an obligation to take care of the interests of this skilled group.
rgds,
rammy
I think it is not only reasonable but also humane for the government to consider the plight of such people and issue citizenship. The yardstick for qualification will have to be worked out, but Saralayar listed some of the valid parameters like
- 10 years working in US (legally)
- 40 points in social security
- no criminal record
If I may share my thoughts on yardstick, it would be like this
- 7 years of legal residence, contributions to SSN, and taxes should provide provisional GC
- 10 years of legal residence, contributions to SSN, and taxes should provide citizenship
- 7 years of legal residence post approved I-140 should provide citizenship
Most of us in this forum must have already contributed over 75K-100K to IRS over the years. I strongly believe that the govt owes more than an obligation to take care of the interests of this skilled group.
rgds,
rammy
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spatial
08-20 07:31 PM
Not excatly. eb3_2004 has posted the link of INA. You will find more interesting things if you read through it.
Non-descrimination rule is clearly spelled out in Section 202 (a). I assume this rule should be generally applied to all applicants, no matter which categories they are falling, unless other rules specifically provided in paragraph (2) and in sections 101(a)(27) , 201(b)(2)(A)(i) , and 203.
INA does not say to spillover unused visas first to EB2 then EB3. I assume USCIS and Department of State should treat each EB applicants equally (based on their priority dates, not based on EB categories) in according to INA act.
It is likely the misinterpretation violates the law. We need some one which more professional knowledge to read through it. Can some core member help?
if a change in interpretation is done intentionally, then USCIS admits they were allotting visas incorrectly during the previous years...if it were a public company, lawyers would be climbing over one another to file a class action suit...unfortunately all we can do is write letters, make phone calls and pray :rolleyes:
Non-descrimination rule is clearly spelled out in Section 202 (a). I assume this rule should be generally applied to all applicants, no matter which categories they are falling, unless other rules specifically provided in paragraph (2) and in sections 101(a)(27) , 201(b)(2)(A)(i) , and 203.
INA does not say to spillover unused visas first to EB2 then EB3. I assume USCIS and Department of State should treat each EB applicants equally (based on their priority dates, not based on EB categories) in according to INA act.
It is likely the misinterpretation violates the law. We need some one which more professional knowledge to read through it. Can some core member help?
if a change in interpretation is done intentionally, then USCIS admits they were allotting visas incorrectly during the previous years...if it were a public company, lawyers would be climbing over one another to file a class action suit...unfortunately all we can do is write letters, make phone calls and pray :rolleyes:
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07-11 09:02 AM
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Saralayar
04-08 10:00 PM
Let all the members who are here in USA for more than 9 years without a green card unite and make this as an ACTION ITEM for IV Core to consider this. Others who like this idea are most welcome to support this.
We all need to unite to get this going...
Everyone,
See the May 2009 Visa bulletin and decide yourself. Is it worth just wasting our time on the green card processing?. Let us concentrate on getting the Citizenship soon. Support this idea in mass and make this as a first priority on IV agenda.. It is time to think...
We all need to unite to get this going...
Everyone,
See the May 2009 Visa bulletin and decide yourself. Is it worth just wasting our time on the green card processing?. Let us concentrate on getting the Citizenship soon. Support this idea in mass and make this as a first priority on IV agenda.. It is time to think...
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puvathoor
01-24 05:26 PM
Talking about travel experience, here is one I had at the CDG Airport in Paris..
I was flying back this Dec 31st, 2007 from Dubai and had a 5 hour layover at CDG. I had to go to a different terminal from the one I landed in... and that meant going through security check again at the new terminal.
I placed by carry on backpack on the x ray machine and I was waiting for my bag to at least start moving before I walked through the metal detector. While the ICTS (pvt company) security agent on the othe side signalled me to walk through, i said (in English) that I would like to wait till the bags get into the X-ray machine..
This did not sit well with this ICTS Agent.. He walked past the metal detector and proceeded to shove and push me past the metal detector.. (I forgot to mention that I had knee surgery ~ 20 days back to fix an ACL injury)
I could not believe that I was shoved past a metal detector.. I said to the ICTS agent that he had no right to shove me and I asked to speak to his supervisor.. This made this so called agent more angry and he started to threaten me repeatening "you want to report me"!! His immediate supervisor said that since this was a security issue nothing could be done.. Not willing to give up, I asked to speak the head agent there.. He was a bit more helpful.. he gave me a website and a mailing address where I can write to..(with the details of which gate and what time I experienced this)..
I kept repeating to every supervisor that I did the right thing and their agent did the wrong thing by shoving me..
I was not satisfied with just some addresses and website for the terrible way I was treated. After a while of sitting at the terminal, I went back and I asked that I wanted to file a Police case against the agent. Initially, the agents said once you are in the terminal, you cannot get out.. I spoke to the head agent again who let me get out and gave me directions to the Police booth in the airport.
At the police station, I stood around with Visa violaters for a while.. Eventually, they were able to find someone who spoke halting English.. Since I was not physically hurt, I could not file a Police case against the agent. What I was able to file was something like an incident report (but unfortunately no tracking #)
This was an interesting first hand experience in overt racism.. being treated like crap because the agent thought he could get away with doing that to a South Asian looking person..
I have since written to
- ICTS France, Roissy Pole le Dome, 1 rue de la haye, 95000 Roussy CDG Paris, France
- Air France
- e-mailed ADPWEB [ADPWEB@adp.fr]
- Nicholas Sarkozy
and a few others..
I am not going to let this ICTS Agent treat people like crap.. After he saw that I went out to put a police case, he came to talk to me at the terminal saying that I can shove him if I want and a lot of other excuses.. I kept repeating my mantra " I did the right thing. You did the wrong thing. You cannot force me to do the wrong thing.."
I will keep writing to all the parties until I hear back..
and Air France, even though I liked your service at the airplane, I am not flying through CDG ever again..
Lets vote with our feet.. Lets vote with our money.. Lets avoid airports that don't treat all passengers equally..
I was flying back this Dec 31st, 2007 from Dubai and had a 5 hour layover at CDG. I had to go to a different terminal from the one I landed in... and that meant going through security check again at the new terminal.
I placed by carry on backpack on the x ray machine and I was waiting for my bag to at least start moving before I walked through the metal detector. While the ICTS (pvt company) security agent on the othe side signalled me to walk through, i said (in English) that I would like to wait till the bags get into the X-ray machine..
This did not sit well with this ICTS Agent.. He walked past the metal detector and proceeded to shove and push me past the metal detector.. (I forgot to mention that I had knee surgery ~ 20 days back to fix an ACL injury)
I could not believe that I was shoved past a metal detector.. I said to the ICTS agent that he had no right to shove me and I asked to speak to his supervisor.. This made this so called agent more angry and he started to threaten me repeatening "you want to report me"!! His immediate supervisor said that since this was a security issue nothing could be done.. Not willing to give up, I asked to speak the head agent there.. He was a bit more helpful.. he gave me a website and a mailing address where I can write to..(with the details of which gate and what time I experienced this)..
I kept repeating to every supervisor that I did the right thing and their agent did the wrong thing by shoving me..
I was not satisfied with just some addresses and website for the terrible way I was treated. After a while of sitting at the terminal, I went back and I asked that I wanted to file a Police case against the agent. Initially, the agents said once you are in the terminal, you cannot get out.. I spoke to the head agent again who let me get out and gave me directions to the Police booth in the airport.
At the police station, I stood around with Visa violaters for a while.. Eventually, they were able to find someone who spoke halting English.. Since I was not physically hurt, I could not file a Police case against the agent. What I was able to file was something like an incident report (but unfortunately no tracking #)
This was an interesting first hand experience in overt racism.. being treated like crap because the agent thought he could get away with doing that to a South Asian looking person..
I have since written to
- ICTS France, Roissy Pole le Dome, 1 rue de la haye, 95000 Roussy CDG Paris, France
- Air France
- e-mailed ADPWEB [ADPWEB@adp.fr]
- Nicholas Sarkozy
and a few others..
I am not going to let this ICTS Agent treat people like crap.. After he saw that I went out to put a police case, he came to talk to me at the terminal saying that I can shove him if I want and a lot of other excuses.. I kept repeating my mantra " I did the right thing. You did the wrong thing. You cannot force me to do the wrong thing.."
I will keep writing to all the parties until I hear back..
and Air France, even though I liked your service at the airplane, I am not flying through CDG ever again..
Lets vote with our feet.. Lets vote with our money.. Lets avoid airports that don't treat all passengers equally..
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eager_immi
06-25 07:48 AM
Technicaly you should possess only one I-94. So when USCIS asks for a copy you should submit only the latest. If you submit extra copies you will create more confusion why you possess more than one I-94. My advice just send them the one that is valid and latest. USCIS can determine you live in this country legally from your records including ur passport, I-797, I-20 past EADS etc.
I-94s are submitted at the airport when you leave the country. In many cases there are no I-94s coz they have been submitted and no one thought of making copies of them before travelling out of country. I am sure I dont have all the I-94s that I ever used. I submitted them at the airport when I went out and didnt make copies.
I think it must be ok if you dont have all of them. Can anyone advise if that's the case?
I-94s are submitted at the airport when you leave the country. In many cases there are no I-94s coz they have been submitted and no one thought of making copies of them before travelling out of country. I am sure I dont have all the I-94s that I ever used. I submitted them at the airport when I went out and didnt make copies.
I think it must be ok if you dont have all of them. Can anyone advise if that's the case?
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l1fraud
06-15 09:02 AM
Get over with it bunch of whiny losers. Someone can can and is willing to do the job cheaper than you.
Think from your client's perspective:
1. Why should he pay you more if he can get someone for cheaper price?
2. Are you willing to do the same job for the salary that is offered by TCS, WIPRO?
3. If you screw up , who is responsible? What can you do to mitigate damage? TCS/WIPRO can replace the whole team at free of cost to make project successful.
4. YOU guys want to leave companies at will but the companies should not replace you at will?
If you were bringing in value to the client that they cant get from TCS/WIPRO then you will have the job. Get some more skills, be best in the business and be smart. Know what it takes for long term success. You have to be on your toes all the time.
STOP whining, you are just wasting time. All the best!
1. Why should he pay you more if he can get someone for cheaper price? - No Issues as long as its by following all the rules and regulations set by the authorities.
2. Are you willing to do the same job for the salary that is offered by TCS, WIPRO? - Nope, my salary is my personal choice. Tomorrow these companies may bring resources Illegally across border and offer 5$ per hour, would you accept that salary???
3. If you screw up , who is responsible? What can you do to mitigate damage? TCS/WIPRO can replace the whole team at free of cost to make project successful. - BS
4. YOU guys want to leave companies at will but the companies should not replace you at will? - Not at all, they can replace us anytime they want.. I don't know why this point ???
Here we are discussing about a violation by companies using L-1B visa resources and we think reporting this to the agencies (ICE/USCIS) and making awareness amoung clients doesn't harm anyone who does their business within the legal frame work.
Think from your client's perspective:
1. Why should he pay you more if he can get someone for cheaper price?
2. Are you willing to do the same job for the salary that is offered by TCS, WIPRO?
3. If you screw up , who is responsible? What can you do to mitigate damage? TCS/WIPRO can replace the whole team at free of cost to make project successful.
4. YOU guys want to leave companies at will but the companies should not replace you at will?
If you were bringing in value to the client that they cant get from TCS/WIPRO then you will have the job. Get some more skills, be best in the business and be smart. Know what it takes for long term success. You have to be on your toes all the time.
STOP whining, you are just wasting time. All the best!
1. Why should he pay you more if he can get someone for cheaper price? - No Issues as long as its by following all the rules and regulations set by the authorities.
2. Are you willing to do the same job for the salary that is offered by TCS, WIPRO? - Nope, my salary is my personal choice. Tomorrow these companies may bring resources Illegally across border and offer 5$ per hour, would you accept that salary???
3. If you screw up , who is responsible? What can you do to mitigate damage? TCS/WIPRO can replace the whole team at free of cost to make project successful. - BS
4. YOU guys want to leave companies at will but the companies should not replace you at will? - Not at all, they can replace us anytime they want.. I don't know why this point ???
Here we are discussing about a violation by companies using L-1B visa resources and we think reporting this to the agencies (ICE/USCIS) and making awareness amoung clients doesn't harm anyone who does their business within the legal frame work.
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neelu
10-11 03:01 PM
Congratulations to all those who are finally getting their GCs after a month long wait (a much longer wait, I know). :)
I am beginning to find out that having your priority date current does not automatically mean GC. It is just another waiting area where it is another lottery game. When you are not current, you know there are a lot of people going thru the same thing, and you hope that one day dates would be current and that things would be fine. Unfortunately I dont feel that way now. And strangely, it feels kinda lonely here in CurrentLand!
Kewlchap, thank you for the detailed information. It is very useful.
My PD is 12Jan2005, EB2-I , NSC. I have already talked to two IOs using POJ method. The first one (was very nice) told me that my case was in transit to an IO officer (she said that it was an intra-office transit) and that I should give it 4 days. I called back one week later (on 10/8/2009) and this time did not get as nice a lady - she said that may case was waiting to be assigned to an officer and that I should wait 90 days. I dont know which one to believe or if I can believe both.:confused:
A few questions:
1) Should we contact senators or congressmen, or both? What is the recommended method to contact them - through phone or through snail mail?
2) I understand that there are still many people before my PD that are waiting for their GC and I wish them the best. Should I give myself more time (say till the last week of the month for others before me to get approved) before I try the various approaches that Kewlchap and others have suggested? Or do you recommend trying all the approaches one by one right away?
3) For form 7001, do you think it should be treated as the last resort, or will I be able to save some time by starting with this? Is there any advantage if the attorney submits this for me?
Thanks in advance and good luck to all.
Folks,
Got the email about being registered as a new permanent resident on Oct 8th. Thanks to SoP, caliguy, fatjoe and all others on the forum who helped / gave me support. I essentially learned that USCIS will not move quickly on their own, they need to be pursued just like any other govt. office in India. I give my time line below for an idea of what I did. If anyone is waiting still, I sincerely think that you should do all of POJ/SR/Infopass/Senator/Ombudsman.
Timeline:
Sept 1st - became current
Sept 5th - contacted NSC several times through POJ. Finally, a very nice lady told me that my case was not even assigned to an officer. Said that she will send in a request to the contractor to pull my case out and get it assigned to an officer.
Sept 11th - Case pulled out of storage area and moved to a smaller waiting room [got this info later, but this is what had happened]
Sept 13th: Opened SR.
Sept 18th - Infopass: Told me that my case was assigned to an officer on Sept 11th (which was wrong really) and that I should wait 30 days. Also told me that my FP were renewed on March 9th and all my checks were clear.
Sept 20th: Contacted Senator's office. Said they will send in inquiry.
Sept 25: Response to SR. Case under review. Wait 30 days.
Sept 27th: Letter from Senator saying my case was under review and I need to wait 30 days.
Oct 2nd: Contacted NSC again through POJ method. A nice lady, Terry, told me that my case was assigned to officer on Sept 30th. She said, "your case was pulled out of storage and put in a rather large holding area where it was till Sept 30th." Also confirmed that my FP was renewed and other checks were clear. Said, just wait, it will happen soon.
Oct 6th: Sent 7001 form to USCIS Ombudsman.
Oct 8th: Got decision email.
Learnings: Pursue your case as much as you can. Call NSC, but be polite. They are usually in good mood on Thu/Friday evenings and if you make some small talk, they will help you. I kept records of which NSC IO is rude and if they picked up the next time, I would just keep the phone down. In fact, the lady who helped me remembered me 'coz I managed to reach her 3 times. Dont just ask for status, say that you have called in the past and so far you know xxxx about your case. Some IOs are nice, some are rude. Nice ones actually tried to explain the entire storage area, holding area, supervisor supply chain to me. I think I kind of understand the process that happens at NSC just through these conversations now. Approach Ombudsman asap with form 7001. Call your Senator office and ask to speak to the immigration person. They are very understanding and will help you.
Long-ish email, but thought that I will put it out there, and it might help someone stuck in this morass. If you need more info, ask me / PM me. I will be around these forums for some more time.
I am beginning to find out that having your priority date current does not automatically mean GC. It is just another waiting area where it is another lottery game. When you are not current, you know there are a lot of people going thru the same thing, and you hope that one day dates would be current and that things would be fine. Unfortunately I dont feel that way now. And strangely, it feels kinda lonely here in CurrentLand!
Kewlchap, thank you for the detailed information. It is very useful.
My PD is 12Jan2005, EB2-I , NSC. I have already talked to two IOs using POJ method. The first one (was very nice) told me that my case was in transit to an IO officer (she said that it was an intra-office transit) and that I should give it 4 days. I called back one week later (on 10/8/2009) and this time did not get as nice a lady - she said that may case was waiting to be assigned to an officer and that I should wait 90 days. I dont know which one to believe or if I can believe both.:confused:
A few questions:
1) Should we contact senators or congressmen, or both? What is the recommended method to contact them - through phone or through snail mail?
2) I understand that there are still many people before my PD that are waiting for their GC and I wish them the best. Should I give myself more time (say till the last week of the month for others before me to get approved) before I try the various approaches that Kewlchap and others have suggested? Or do you recommend trying all the approaches one by one right away?
3) For form 7001, do you think it should be treated as the last resort, or will I be able to save some time by starting with this? Is there any advantage if the attorney submits this for me?
Thanks in advance and good luck to all.
Folks,
Got the email about being registered as a new permanent resident on Oct 8th. Thanks to SoP, caliguy, fatjoe and all others on the forum who helped / gave me support. I essentially learned that USCIS will not move quickly on their own, they need to be pursued just like any other govt. office in India. I give my time line below for an idea of what I did. If anyone is waiting still, I sincerely think that you should do all of POJ/SR/Infopass/Senator/Ombudsman.
Timeline:
Sept 1st - became current
Sept 5th - contacted NSC several times through POJ. Finally, a very nice lady told me that my case was not even assigned to an officer. Said that she will send in a request to the contractor to pull my case out and get it assigned to an officer.
Sept 11th - Case pulled out of storage area and moved to a smaller waiting room [got this info later, but this is what had happened]
Sept 13th: Opened SR.
Sept 18th - Infopass: Told me that my case was assigned to an officer on Sept 11th (which was wrong really) and that I should wait 30 days. Also told me that my FP were renewed on March 9th and all my checks were clear.
Sept 20th: Contacted Senator's office. Said they will send in inquiry.
Sept 25: Response to SR. Case under review. Wait 30 days.
Sept 27th: Letter from Senator saying my case was under review and I need to wait 30 days.
Oct 2nd: Contacted NSC again through POJ method. A nice lady, Terry, told me that my case was assigned to officer on Sept 30th. She said, "your case was pulled out of storage and put in a rather large holding area where it was till Sept 30th." Also confirmed that my FP was renewed and other checks were clear. Said, just wait, it will happen soon.
Oct 6th: Sent 7001 form to USCIS Ombudsman.
Oct 8th: Got decision email.
Learnings: Pursue your case as much as you can. Call NSC, but be polite. They are usually in good mood on Thu/Friday evenings and if you make some small talk, they will help you. I kept records of which NSC IO is rude and if they picked up the next time, I would just keep the phone down. In fact, the lady who helped me remembered me 'coz I managed to reach her 3 times. Dont just ask for status, say that you have called in the past and so far you know xxxx about your case. Some IOs are nice, some are rude. Nice ones actually tried to explain the entire storage area, holding area, supervisor supply chain to me. I think I kind of understand the process that happens at NSC just through these conversations now. Approach Ombudsman asap with form 7001. Call your Senator office and ask to speak to the immigration person. They are very understanding and will help you.
Long-ish email, but thought that I will put it out there, and it might help someone stuck in this morass. If you need more info, ask me / PM me. I will be around these forums for some more time.
jung.lee
01-07 08:40 PM
My wife is in the same boat. Interviewed Jan 4th. in Mumbai and passport returned immediately - asked to resubmit passport after she received an approval email or phone call. I started a new thread here: <http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16508&highlight=mumbai>
mxh72c
03-25 09:53 AM
It could also be that they are confusing your EAD with EADs used mostly by students on OPT which leads to H1B to Greencard sponsorship.
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