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  • tawlibann
    06-28 11:28 AM
    I don�t buy the argument that only India and China produce the brightest people who are willing to work here in U.S. There are just as many people from Europe and the rest of the world who are just as qualified and who would want to work in the U.S. The problem starts with the H1-B visas, where most of them are taken by these Indian IT consulting companies. Correct me if I�m wrong, but I don�t think these IT companies hire non-Indian workers. There are many qualified people from the rest of the world who are willing to work here in U.S, but can�t because the majority of the H1-B visas is going to Indians and Chinese nationals. Perhaps, there should be a per-country quota at the H1-B level. I don�t think there is anything wrong with the current country quota; if some countries don�t use their quotas then these quotas roll into the countries that have higher demand.

    I second that. As long as there is widespread abuse -- large numbers of Indian body-shops and consulting companies that import people by the thousands -- and as long as that skews the numbers, there should also be checks and balances -- per-country limits. Per-country limits and diversity argument are a good way to restore the balance and offset for the abuse.

    I'm really tired of hearing people saying that diversity is for FB or for DV visa. What make FB immigration a better candidate for diversity?!? Absolutely nothing. The law provides for diversity in ALL immigration categories -- EB, FB, DV, etc., and there is nothing discriminatory about it. The discrimination comes from companies that abuse the system, import thousands of consulting workers with 3-year degrees who don't really have jobs but sit on the bench for 8-10 months at a time (something that's explicitly disallowed by H-1B law), and then apply for I-140/I-485 going through an unending sequence of RFE's, NOIDs, MTR's, etc. and slowing the system to a crawl. Now these people want the whole world to suffer with them by "distributing" the pain. Why?

    If somebody takes care of this abuse, the remaining really qualified Indian/Chinese workers who really deserve to be here will find that they won't need a separate category because there won't be any severe backlogs for their countries.

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  • varghese85
    04-26 06:46 PM

    I sent in my OPT application on 26th of March, and it was delivered there on the 29th of March. I still haven't received a receipt and the check hasn't been cashed yet, even though it has been 4 weeks now.

    Today, I just mailed in a letter asking in polite words, WTF happened to the application, and sent it to the Lockbox.. Wonder what's going on..

    Couple of questions I have:
    1. if I file another application electronically, is there any significant problem other than that I may risk losing twice the fees ?
    2. Do I get to send the supporting documents to the black hole lock box? or do I get to send it to a Service center where something actually happens?

    Any advice is appreciated as I have a job starting July 5th. And without the receipt notice, I'll be out of status on July 24th.


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  • rmani
    01-21 04:38 PM
    Thanks for the IV Core Team Members for all their efforts!
    Will bring more members.


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  • frostrated
    08-04 01:53 PM
    when is the next 485 inventory list due from USCIS?
    also, apart from , does IV have a list pending users with PD and RD of 485?

    It is the RD of the 485 application that dictates the order of processing the application. In addition, for the application to the processed the PD must be current. Once the PD is current, it is the RD that matters.


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  • shahrks
    05-12 12:17 PM
    PERM Filed: 09/30/2007
    PERM Audit Replied: 11/30/2007
    Category: MS + 2 years / EB2
    Field: IT
    Country: India

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  • amitjoey
    01-04 03:36 PM
    Welcome to our newest member, "cchaitu"


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  • SGP
    04-18 06:52 AM
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD MORNING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Deadline = April 30th, 2011
    Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
    Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
    2)Email with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
    3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")

    This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.

    As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.

    Visit Immigration Voice Wiki ( 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
    Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki ( - for overview of this initiative

    As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.

    The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
    What can you do to participate?
    1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.

    Then please send an email to (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated

    2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.

    I485 Filing Initiative Flier (

    3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.

    Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.

    Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)

    (Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)

    Immigration Wiki -
    I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (

    PM these members for additional info:
    nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
    Dedicated members can also join the leaders group:

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  • mpadapa
    06-09 10:54 AM
    We need active participation from members for the action item listed on this thread. CHC member are taking a very hard stand on the 3 bills introduced by Lofgren. If members (esp. constituents) don't call in large numbers and urge the CHC members to support the bills. The 3 bills may not even see the house floor. CHC members want only one immigration bill (CIR), nothing else is accepted.

    Please ask u'r friends and colleagues (who are constituents of CHC lawmakers) to participate in this crucial action item.


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  • MeraNaamJoker
    08-04 05:33 PM
    Read the lines in Green

    Good Luck on your approval. I think you are Man(strong guess) in a hurry.

    I did not mean to make fun out of you. what I meant was that you and your spouse. I guess it did not come out that way. Sorry about that.

    Thanks for the details.

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  • Macaca
    01-18 10:01 AM
    Do you know the story of the crow getting to the water by putting pebbles into the jug which had very little water?

    Well, here we are: the water is IV's target...the pebbles are the contributions ($200, great, but $20, still good!!) from a large number of members. It's impossible to justify why one can not contribute $200 when the core members and some others like you & anurakt have given so much more. I believe it is equally important to encourage as many members to contribute as much they can.

    No contribution is too small if it is actually made. An ounce of action is better than a pound of intention!

    The weekness in this analogy is the absence of a time limit on the crow. If the crow will die by a certain time, then the crow better start putting bigger pebbles.

    It will take 10 months to pay $200 if you pay $20/month. Legislation may start coming up in Feb. Money is needed to get the issue on the table and NOT when the issue is on the table. That time is right now.


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  • amitjoey
    06-13 01:46 PM
    As of now the total number of members in IV are 13,959. I think we can get it to 14,000 by the end of the day.. we just need 41 members.

    Yes, I was just thinking about that.

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  • indian111
    05-15 02:32 PM
    Card production ordered on 5/14
    e-Filed on 4/26, sent papers on 4/28, received by TSC on 4/29
    Filed at TSC. Not sure on the EAD validity of start date yet. Waiting for the card in mail.


    e-Filed on 4/26, sent papers on 4/28, received by TSC on 4/29, Card production ordered on 5/14. Great job TSC.



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  • vagish
    04-09 10:15 PM
    Exactly ,

    No body is forcing any one to do any unethical things that applies for consultants as well as consulting companies. If any one does anything illegal they will meet the fate of Enron, Anderson or CA.

    No one is forcing any one to work for a desi consulting company, If anyone does not like them they always have the option of choosing a new employer or leaving the country.

    No company is going to pay for a consultant if consultant does not deliver what client wants.

    Hope economy will be strong no one has to see tbe bad days of 2001 and 2002 which I have seen personally .

    Just recently two american mortgage lendors have laid off people in Southern California without any consideration for immigration status. These companies have people of all kinds which include "US educated" and direct H1s and their green card applicaitons in various stages. All these people have to start all over again. I feel sorry for these guys.

    All the guys thinking about H1b "reform" think twice before what you wish for.
    It may come down to a point they we may not want to pursue this struggle,
    iam not discourgaging anybody, but any EB reform will face stiff opposition, they will attach lot's of riders to it. At the end people will wonder is the EB reform is even worth with so many strrings attached to it.


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  • GC_Applicant
    01-28 08:07 PM
    Click on the "Messenger" link on the left hand side in


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  • susie
    04-22 01:49 PM
    Spoke with Carl Shusterman today and he has requested a copy of my law suit. He his heading a meeting with AILA in two weeks and it appears wheels are in motion for bill/amendments to cspa to protect children who have already aged out!!!!!!!!!! so you may wish to keep checking out this thread also subscribe to his news letter at

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  • desigirl
    11-01 10:20 AM
    Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy: LIBERTARIANS: TIME TO RE-LEGALIZE IMMIGRATION (


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  • reddymjm
    07-14 11:23 AM
    EB1 is the brightest not in all ways. If you are a manger in outsourcing company and in one more country u still qualify for EB1. It does not take long to become a manager in outsourcing companys. So how u can break the law or tweak around it works. I know people who were on bench life long in consulting companies in EB2 got GCs.

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  • abhijitp
    07-11 07:38 PM
    I talked to a staff member at senator Barbara's office, and the staff member said, Faxes and emails are responded and replied by staff reps. Only written (typed) letters go to Senator's attention. She also advised me that if this is something you need the senators attention on, do not send fax or email, send a letter with postage paid.
    I explained to her the visa -flip flop, and she said most likely the senator will read and send an inquiry, The senator is very good at responding to letters from constituents.
    That is exactly why we need to send them letters, please look at the format and add some personal details, gives it a little personal touch.

    I agree. My experience thus far: I emailed 200 reporters and received no response. I am going to try the letters idea, because I too think what Amitjoey says is right-- letters make an impact.

    Write a letter, run a grammar/spell check, then print, SIGN, and send it to senators who support us. I wrote the following. But please personalize, because that would send the message that this is an issue of importance to you-- the writer.


    Senator Name, Address


    Subject: Thousands of properly filed EB Green Card applications likely to be rejected/ returned

    References/ Enclosures:
    � Interim Visa Bulletin by U S Department of State
    � USCIS announcement to stop accepting Adjustment Of Status applications

    Dear ____:

    I have been living in ___, USA for the last ___ months/ years. By profession, I am a ____, and I work for ___, a company based in ___.

    I am writing to bring to your attention the unprecedented decision made by US Department of State (DOS) on July 2, 2007 with its interim �visa bulletin�. With this bulletin, DOS determined that all the immigrant visa numbers allocated for the current financial year had been expended, and thus there would be no further authorizations of new Green Cards this year. In response, USCIS announced that it would return all Adjustment of Status applications it received, beginning July 2, 2007. Please note that the USCIS had already RECEIVED applications on the morning of July 2, 2007, even before DOS published this interim visa bulletin.

    In my opinion it is an unfortunate decision in that it virtually renders null and void, thousands of properly filed Employment Based Green Card- Adjustment of Status applications.

    An important thing to note here, is that in the Visa Bulletin published by DOS only 18 days ago (June 13, 2007) all Employment Based categories had been made �current� since almost 60000 immigrant visa numbers had been unused till that time.
    This begs the question: how did USCIS manage to approve about 60000 green cards in less than 3 weeks, when it took the previous 8 months to approve the same number of green cards?

    The Visa Bulletin published by DOS in June 2007, had brought good news to thousands of high-skilled temporary workers (doctors, engineers, IT professionals) in the USA, because the floodgates that had been closed for over 2 years had been re-opened.
    This bulletin had implied that we could finally apply for "Adjustment of Status"- the final stage of the 3 step Employment based Green card process. This would solve a number of quality of life issues for people like me, as they would allow our spouses to take up part or full time jobs, they would bring in an element of stability allowing me to plan the purchase of a new home, and it would give me the freedom of relocating to another part of the USA for any unforeseen reason, without worrying about the portability of my existing job.

    Therefore, my family and I worked really hard, and tried to religiously comply with all procedures laid out and submitted our application to reach the USCIS on the morning of July 2, 2007.

    Besides running around to gather the paperwork to help file in time, I had to spend a significant amount of money on:
    1) Urgent medical examinations and vaccinations by USCIS approved surgeon: $700. (Note: These were not covered by my medical insurance.)
    2) New passport photographs; these needed to be less than a month old... so these had to be newly taken photographs
    3) Notarization/ Courier charges: Approximately $100 (Some amount expended in foreign currency)

    All of the money spent, as well as the time and efforts were rendered useless by the new bulletin on July 2, 2007, which I repeat, was published AFTER the window opened for new applications on the morning of July 2, 2007.

    My point is, and I believe anyone with common sense would agree, it is only fair to expect a notice period before a reversal such as this one. Preferably... weeks of notice if not days! I am sure no US Citizen would accept anything less for a notice in such an important matter!

    I would implore you to look into this matter as soon as you can, and request the USCIS to accept Adjustment of Status applications filed through July 2007.

    Thank you.



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  • pappu
    02-01 09:26 PM
    Pappu just mentioned that an update is on the way...

    07-18 09:12 AM
    The first step you should get your employer to do is to file a job order in the state job bank or americas job bank. You have to keep this ad for 30 days and then wait another 30 days to file PERM. This is the longest time. All other forms of recruitment needs to wait only 30 days and you can file PERM on the 31st day. There is no mention of working days or weekends, it is 30 continuous days. As you know in addition to this job bank order, and two Sunday newspaper ads, there has to be three other forms of recruitment before you can file PERM. If your employer and lawyer are really proactive it will only take 60 days to file PERM from start to finish. You also have to get a prevailing wage determination and post it at your job site for 10 days not including holidays and weekends. Hope this helps. Please contribute and incrase the membership of IV for the good of all of us.

    My employer posted the job order around June 18th.Sunday newspapaer ads and all other work is completed. Technically speaking Iam eligible for applying for labor on Aug 18th. Is there a way that i can apply for labor and check my luck now with the changes that took place yesterday on July 17th regarding USCIS making all employment categories current?
    Can i do this? I really appreciate if somebody can respond me on their thoughts and ideas how i can utilize this chance..

    08-06 10:00 AM
    EAD efiled on May 19th, 08
    FP on June 11th, 08
    Two CPO date (on Jul 16th and Jul 30th, 08)
    EAD (2-year) received (me+spouse) on Aug 04th, 08

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